Build a scale from a Tamiya 58397 Toyota Hilux Hight Lift – Part 1 : The chassis

Tamiya 3 speeds Hilux Mountaineer

In 2007 Tamiya release a brand new chassis with 3 speed transmission. A great model for the fans, but instead of putting ugly decals and four ridiculous wheels to create the High-Lift, they should have looked to the past and be inspired by the toyota mountaineer.

That why the first life of my  kit was a replica of the Toyota Mountaineer 58111.

 

 

Hilux

My High Lift, the Tamiya Mountaineer tribute

58397 Tamiya Toyota Hilux High Lift Scale Mountaineer 58111

 

Here it is in video:

After driving and appreciated an Axial Jeep Rubicon as a “Scale”, I wanted to modified this Toyota as a real 4×4 truck.
This is how I did !

Start of operations

The front drivetrain:

Original

58397 Tamiya Toyota Hilux High Lift Scale Mountaineer 58111

 

Fist of all I reduce the height by removing the shims between the leaf spring. I buy Super Lift damper which they are 20mm longer. They are also screwed at lower place

The front shock stay are also longer. The steering knuckle are reversed and the steering servo put at the front.

 

58397 Tamiya Toyota Hilux High Lift Scale Mountaineer 58111

58397 Tamiya Toyota Hilux High Lift Scale Mountaineer 58111

 

The gearbox and motor:

Original

chassis

 

My modifications :

The body is to high due to the transmission and motor. I changed the location with an home made plate cut in carbon fiber.

 

58397 Tamiya Toyota Hilux High Lift Scale Mountaineer 58111

 




I stand back the transmission, put a 48dp spur gear with only 75 teeth to minimize the height of body

 

58397 Tamiya Toyota Hilux High Lift Scale Mountaineer 58111

 

Attach the servo on the rear of gearbox.

chassis
chassis

 

The rear drivetrain

Original

tamiya-high-lift-chassis

 

My modifications :

58397 Tamiya Toyota Hilux High Lift Scale Mountaineer 58111

58397 Tamiya Toyota Hilux High Lift Scale Mountaineer 58111

58397 Tamiya Toyota Hilux High Lift Scale Mountaineer 58111

ROBBE / KYOSHO Toyota Hilux

In the early ’80s, the German RC manufacturer Robbe wished to expand its range of products mainly focused on planes and boats. It established a partnership with the Japanese manufacturer Kyosho and Robbe started to import cars, modifiying the box packaging and decals sheet for the European market.

Kyosho Robbe Gaupner Toyota Hilux

Aware of the success of the Tamiya Sand Scorcher, Kyosho released this car dedicated to driving on sand in 1982. Its dustproof chassis will be produced with three bodies: a baja beetle, a buggy and a Toyota Hilux.

Period advertising :

This Toyota Hilux is a model imported by Robbe. It is slightly different from a Japanese or American model: no roll bar on the rear plateform and a rond bumper instead of a flat unit. The car was supplied pre-assembled with the the lexan body left to paint and the wheels and radio equipment to install.

Kyosho Robbe Gaupner Toyota Hilux

The chassis plastic frame protects the electronics thanks to a cover held by rubber bands. The battery is held longitudinally and must be placed on the edge.

Kyosho Robbe Gaupner Toyota Hilux

The front suspension uses trailing arms. A coiled spring on the suspension arms pivot makes the shock absorber. The adjustable servo-saver is located on the front body mount axle.

Kyosho Robbe Gaupner Toyota Hilux

The Toyota features a solid rear axle without suspension. The rear tires are used as the suspension system since they can be inflated thanks to a pump pinched into the tire. The use of a special glue included in the box works as a rubber patch to fill the hole.

Kyosho Robbe Gaupner Toyota Hilux




Kyosho Robbe Gaupner Toyota Hilux

The aluminum gearbox contains the motor and plastic gears. The transmission has no differential, but there is a clutch that works like those found on nitro motors.

Kyosho Robbe Gaupner Toyota Hilux

This model unfortunately lost the tire inflating pump, but foams provide the required flexibility.

Kyosho Robbe Gaupner Toyota Hilux




Kyosho Robbe Gaupner Toyota Hilux

Our test on hard and icy surface is not really appropriate since it highlights the flaws of this Toyota.

The lack of differential and rear suspension causes a lot of oversteer. The rear drivetrain bounces a lot while the front does its job without complaining. The steering is imprecise due to the too soft servo-saver.

The clutch is useless on this Toyota since the engine idling does not exist on an electric model. So the car goes coasting as soon as it doesn’t accelerate. As a consequence, braking is difficult, or even brutal when shifting into reverse gear.

However, the ground clearance and the lack of differential are very useful to climb softer grounds like grass hills.

Kyosho Robbe Gaupner Toyota Hilux

Like with any other vintage rc model, the pleasure you can get does not come from the analysis of performances or comparison with competitors.

However, one can’t miss how much Kyosho got “inspired” by Tamiya’s successful models such as the Sand Scorcher, Rough Rider and F150 Ranger XLT.

Technically interesting in theory, this car is a pleasure to see. Its cute and vintage look is typical of 80’s, but it better deserves a beach than a snow field.

David de RC4ON.com

Thanks to Challenger-RT, Lowry and Aussie Nerd from Tamiya Club for their help

More pictures in gallery : Kyosho / Robbe Toyota Hilux

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#8 MARUI Toyota Land Cruiser

Hitting the market in 1984, this little Toyota was many modelists first RC. Today this car is  considered as Vintage due to its age, and because Marui abandonned the RC market.

Marui Toyota Land Cruiser

This one on pictures, is in very good shape for its age, showing an ABS body with lots of details. The gauges on dashboard, the jerrycan, the radio CB give a look close to diecast.

Marui Toyota Land Cruiser

Marui Toyota Land Cruiser

Compared with a Wild Willy from Tamiya, the car is more proportionnal and pleasant to see. But the plastic quality is lower than Tamiya’s at the same period.

Marui Toyota Land Cruiser

The chassis offers two places where to strap the battery pack. The first central section provides standard driving while the second on the rear section transforms the car into “Super Wheelie”. The car can make wheelies on long distances, which is funny but after a few runs, it become boring and the battery pack generally goes back to the central section of the chassis.




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This model even had its own officially dedicated race series in France. As it was bouncy and its steering unprecise, drivers were struggling to control it on the track, but all of them were happy to compete with equal vehicles.

Marui Toyota Land Cruiser

In conclusion, this Marui Toyota Land Cruiser is very cute and fun to see how it drives on any surface. Its 80’s 4WD look and its handling contribute a lot to the “please of use”.

David from rc4on.com

More pictures in the Gallery: Marui Toyota Land Cruiser


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